You misunderstand how Claude watermarks things.

mr_mitm · 2026-09-02T14:22:13

TFA is talking about C2PA, a regular signature in the meta data. A lack thereof means nothing, but if it's there, the false positive rate should be near zero.

basedpolymer · 2026-09-02T15:15:18

Most critics of watermarking have no idea how it works. Yet there are valid arguments against (and for) it, but they prefer to be misleading

dgellow · 2026-09-02T16:03:39

What are the valid arguments against? Is it about the fact that the output isn’t “optimal”?

basedpolymer · 2026-09-02T20:37:33

Rather, concerns related to user identification combined with copyright issues

I don't believe it, but I still haven't seen any in-depth discussions on these issues

DanielHB · 2026-09-02T14:17:06

Yes, but I also think it will be trivially by-passable if you pass your output through another LLM. At least for text.

It might help catch students cheating, but not real spam-bot usage. As soon as platforms start checking for watermarks spambots will add anti-watermark passes.

doc_ick · 2026-09-02T14:23:08

I read through their earlier announcement, i don’t think it’ll be trivially by-passable without distorting the original message.

I would agree it may not help spam-bot usage, however at this case seemingly the only user detection is likely an id/badge check, which is not good.

capten · 2026-09-02T14:17:38

Imagine telling someone they're wrong without providing any evidence or context.

dewey · 2026-09-02T14:19:22

Welcome to the internet.