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Hopefully Canada can just get the economic benefits and not end up having to be subject to the insane stuff like Chat Control
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> Canada's Bill C-22 Would Force Encryption Backdoors

> Signal, Windscribe, and NordVPN say they'll pull out of Canada before building surveillance infrastructure. The biggest threat to encrypted communications in a Western democracy since Australia's 2018 law.

https://stateofsurveillance.org/news/canada-bill-c22-lawful-...


And yet NordVPN and Signal both continue to work in Australia (I don't know who/what Windscribe are), so all other things aside, I suspect this is a hollow threat.

They have not asked yet or companies (Fastmail for example) just provide access and keep quiet.

> Australia passes world’s first law authorizing encryption backdoors

> The law authorizes police to compel companies to create a security vulnerability, often called a backdoor, that would give investigators access to an individual’s communication without that person’s knowledge. It marks a major milestone in the so-called “crypto wars” over the public’s ability to “go dark” via the powerful encryption available on commercial devices.

https://cyberscoop.com/australia-encryption-backdoors-law-pa...


>> Australia passes world’s first law authorizing encryption backdoors

First only as far as a law known to the state's citizens.

I was working on a compression and encryption idea late 80s, very early 90s albeit with too higher a price on compute power which I was hoping to improve -- fortunately I bumped into a bloke though attending a module to improve design who also worked for a company developing software which used encryption, primarily targeting a particular market overseas which would also see sales flow into other countries eventually. On telling him what I was working on he took the time to have a long chat as he lay out the difficulties he and the company he worked for had to deal with especially in regard to this country; as to be able to market the product there, the programs would need a back door ... from what I heard, I'd assume that all sold there at that time had a back door. It was a significant moment for it changed the path I was on, being apparently more or less pointless, I reluctantly moved on as it wasn't worth any more time to provide a free open source program that got around the sale aspect.

Funny thing is, myself online I couldn't give a rats if whomever in those 3 and 4 letter organisations around the world could see my emails, mailing lists etc.

Edit: clarity


There are way more benefits to being in EU than disadvantages.

This is only part of the question though, the other question is is it actually good for the EU to continue growing and becoming more heterogenous indefinitely, which to me isn't at all clear.

You could make a good case that the EU is still trying to deal with issues from the 2004 expansion for example. Doesn't mean it was a bad idea, but it's not cost free


Just a few days ago, Iceland disagreed.

And that is the beauty of it, no one is forced.

Benefits are more visible from the inside, and if you don't like it you can brexit.

Unfortunately no one can be forced out also.




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